Wednesday, October 31, 2007

Jimmy Carter's War Against the Jews; A Must Watch!


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Yeah but... Could THIS really be the Last Days? Part Two or Two



"The Earth Belongs to HaShem and the Fullness Thereof."

When Will These Things Be? (part two of two)
By John of AllFaith © October 31, 2007

Here in part two of this study (Click Here for part one) I'll offer evidence that this generation is the first in history that not only could have been the one foretold by the Hebrew prophets, including Y'shua, Paul and John, but that it has to be!

Luke 21:24 And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled. 25 And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring; 26 Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken. 27 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory.

In both Matthew (24) and Luke (21) Prophet Y'shua gives details into the future of our world. Most people, including me, usually stress the importance of Matthew 24 but here in Luke he gives us one the most important signs for when the Kingdom will be established. Note the time line here.

"And they [the Jews] shall fall by the edge of the sword..." He explains that Jerusalem and its Holy Temple will fall (Matt 24:1) and the Jews will be butchered. This happened in 70 CE when Titus and his forces laid waste to Zion.

Next, "... and [the Jews] shall be led away captive into all nations,,," With the destruction of the City and Temple the Jews fled Zion and the Great Diaspora began. Since 70 CE Jews have lived as perpetual refugees in most nations of the earth.

And here is the important point for our present consideration: "... and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles..." This is precisely what happened. The Holy City came under the control of various Gentile powers. For how long?

"..., until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled."

The Kingdom therefore will not be established until Zion, especially the city of Jerusalem proper, is in ruled by a Jewish government.

This single verse, and there are many others, makes it crystal clear that until Israel was reborn in 1948 and, moreover, not until the Holy City was taken in 1967, there was no way the Moshiach would come.

Israel's critics at times include Jews who maintain that only the Messiah can restore Israel to the Jews. Master Y'shua debunks this notion. In his time table he shows that first the Jews will return to Jerusalem, thus ending the Tims of the Gentiles, and THEN...

25 And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring;

As the Jews return to and reclaim Holy Zion the nations will enter into a time of chaos and political upheaval. These nations are likened to a great sea and this sea is roaring!

26 Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken.

A time of terrorism and fear will rock the earth and HaShem, the God of Israel, will once again directly enter into the affairs of the world. As this time advanced:

It is during this time that HaShem will fulfil His promise to father Abraham:

Genesis 12
1 Now HaShem had said unto Abram, Get thee out of thy country, and from thy kindred, and from thy father's house, unto a land that I will show thee: 2 And I will make of thee a great nation, and I will bless thee, and make thy name great; and thou shalt be a blessing: 3 And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed.

Those nations that Bless Israel will be blessed, those who curse Israel will be cursed.
The United States/New World Order is currently working to divide Jerusalem, to drive the Jews out of large segments of the Holy City and to give those areas to their Arab enemies. God will curse those who curse Israel and its Holy City. Will He spare this fallen and corrupt nation? For more on this see my blog entries Here and Here)

So... Prophet Y'shua clearly says the Jews will return to Israel, then...

27 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory.

The general assumption made by Christians is that this Son of man refers to Jesus, in the Greek it does not specify who this man is . I discuss this elsewhere in some depth (Click Here) but with this study we're looking and timing.

Paul adds more insight:

II Thessalonians 2
1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him, 2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.

In other words, although there were people at the time who believed the Kingdom would soon be established, Paul is very clear that it is not "at hand."

The coming of Moshiach had been the hope of Jews for over two thousand years, it was understandable that the Jews and Noahides who accepted the teachings of Master Y'shua hoped the Kingdom was at hand. Paul wrote this letter about eighteen years after Master Y'shua's death. As mentioned above, the primary role of the Moshiach is the establishment of the Theocratic Kingdom.

This view is expressed by the great Jewish theologian Maimonides as follows:
"If a king will arise from the House of David, diligent in Torah study and the fulfillment of Mitzvot - of the written and Oral Law – like David his ancestor, and will compel all the Jews to go in its [the Torah's] path . . and builds the Holy Temple and gathers the Diaspora [to the land of Israel], this is certainly the Messiah." (Laws of Kings 11:4).

3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

Prophet Daniel refers to this son of perdition as well. We'll discuss that later. For now, note that before the Kingdom is established, ie "that day," another man must come.

4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God.

As this study is considering timing rather than the specifics, note that this man will sit in the Temple of God.

Paul was fully aware of Prophet Y'shua's teachings and he had predicted the destruction of the Temple and the dispersion of the Jews throughout the world:

Matthew 24
1 And Jesus went out, and departed from the temple: and his disciples came to him for to show him the buildings of the temple. 2 And Jesus said unto them, See ye not all these things? verily I say unto you, There shall not be left here one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down. 3 And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the [age]?

Yet here in II Thessalonians he tells us that the coming Son of Perdition will sit in the Temple. It is therefore clear that Paul is referring to third Temple which Maimonides tells us the Messiah will establish. More on this below. For now we note that since the third Temple has yet to be built the Antichrist or Man of Perdition could not have come.

We now have a few essential prophecies that must be fulfilled by the generation of the End Times:

The Jews must return to Zion
Many nations must oppose the re-establishment of the nation of Israel
The third Temple must be built

These things were not possible before 1948/1967 and so any claim by previous generations were in error of the prophecies.

We continue with II Thessalonians 2
5 Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things? 6 And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time. 7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.

I plan to write on this hinderer soon. I have much to say on this topic. For now however, note that there is a struggle going on between the forces of Antichrist and the forces of... those who oppose him. These opposing elements have had limited success but the Antichrist will come to power.

8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: 9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders... 15 Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle. 16 Now our Lord Jesus Christ himself, and God, even our Father, which hath loved us, and hath given us everlasting consolation and good hope through grace, 17 Comfort your hearts, and stablish you in every good word and work.

Paul therefore lists several important events that must be in place. He prays that his hearers will be strengthened by their faith in the teachings of Master Y'shua, and by the mercies and blessings of HaShem.

Now let us return to the matter of the times of the Gentiles...

Master Y'shua said the Jewish Diaspora would continue until the Times of the Gentiles are ended (Luke 21:24).

I don't want to go too deeply into this here since I have written about it elsewhere (Click Here), but according to Paul the Gentile followers of Master Y'shua were "grafted onto" to the Tree of Israel for a set duration (Rom 11). This duration is the Times of the Gentiles.

What does this mean that the Gentile followers of the Jewish Master Y'shua were "grafted onto the House of Israel?

Paul is very clear on this at Romans 11. He explains that the Noahide Nazarenes (the Gentile followers of Master Y'shua) have been shown favor by HaShem for His own purposes, however, "Hath God cast away his people? God forbid. For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin. God hath not cast away his people which he foreknew.... (Rom 11:1,2). And again, "For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance" (Rom 11:29). HaShem chose the Jews and that calling has and never will be withdrawn. Again, I discuss this elsewhere.

The relevance of this point is that according to Paul, as well as the Prophet John (who prophetically described the future of the Christian Faith in terms of seven churches), at the time when the Antichrist rises to power the Christian church will have fallen from its position of domination and moral authority into abject greed and hypocrisy. Therefore during the hundreds of years when the Church ruled nations, during those days the word "Christian" was generally considered a synonymous for right and good, the time would not have arrived. With the rise of Israel as a nation the Times of the Gentiles began drawing to a close and the Christian religion began falling into abject hypocrisy and greed:

Rev. 3:15 I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot. 16 So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth. 17 Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked: 18 I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see. 19 As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.

Today Christianity as a religion is no longer viewed favorably by the world. It is rocked with scandals and people at large consider it hypocritial if not anemic. This is not to say there are not many sincere Christians nor that the tree is completely rotten, however as Master Y'shua made clear:

Matt 7:16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? 17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. 19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. 20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.

When we look at the fruit produced by those countries and organizations claiming to be Christian we find considerably less good fruit than previously. Indeed Islam will soon pass Christianity as the largest religion on earth. It is already by far the most devoutly observed.

Again, with this study we are looking at timing. Until the Church was in this fallen state the Messiah would not come.

Now let's consider politics.

Prophet Daniel, writing in the sixth century BCE, foretold that the future would see four global powers. At the time he was writing the Jews were living in Babylon where they had been taken following the defeat of the Northern and Southern Hebrew kingdoms. Daniel spoke in some detail of the world powers:

Babylon: Dan. 2:38-38 (see also Dan 7:4 and 8:20)
Medo-Persia and Greece: Dan. 2:39 (see also Dan 7:7 and 9:26)
Rome: Daniel 2:40--43 (see also 7:7 and 9:26)

That these are references to governments is confirmed here:

Daniel 7:17 These great beasts, which are four, are four kings, which shall arise out of the earth.

Then verse 44 tells us, "And in the days of these kings shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom, which shall never be destroyed: and the kingdom shall not be left to other people, but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand for ever."

If the Roman Empire is the fourth of these world powers, which is clear when one studies these out, then the Theocratic Kingdom will be the next global power.

We naturally ask the question, what of the United States that now seems to rule the world?

As the Cold War ended it appeared that the United States had become the only true global power, however almost immediately China established itself as a major power that rivaled the US. Likewise, even though the USSR fell, Russia remained an important player and is now returning to the political stage. Likewise the Islamic Ummah is a world power and is becoming more so every day. Therefore, since the fall of Rome there has not been a true world power.

In Daniel seven, where these four powers are discussed as well, we read the following:

7 After this [after seeing Greece] I saw in the night visions, and behold a fourth beast, dreadful and terrible, and strong exceedingly; and it had great iron teeth: it devoured and brake in pieces, and stamped the residue with the feet of it: and it was diverse from all the beasts that were before it; and it had ten horns. 8 I considered the horns, and, behold, there came up among them another little horn, before whom there were three of the first horns plucked up by the roots: and, behold, in this horn were eyes like the eyes of man, and a mouth speaking great things.

Dan. 7:23 Thus he said, The fourth beast shall be the fourth kingdom upon earth, which shall be diverse from all kingdoms, and shall devour the whole earth, and shall tread it down, and break it in pieces. 24 And the ten horns out of this kingdom are ten kings that shall arise: and another shall rise after them; and he shall be diverse from the first, and he shall subdue three kings.

When one studies this out we find that the Roman Empire never actually fell, rather it disintegrated into the ten basic nation states in Europe, today known as the European Union. From among these nations the Antichrist will rise to power.

Prophet Y'shua refers to this ruler when he says,

John 5:43 I am come in my Father's name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive.

This "other" is the Antichrist
, "Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God" (II Thess 2:4).

Timing.

The formation of the EU was needed so that the Little Horn would have a base from which to rise.

We also see from this and other verses that this leader will be Jewish.

Those who have made this statement before have often been labeled Antisemitic. Those who read my thoughts regularly know my support for Israel and all things Jewish.

Why must the Antichrist be Jewish?
According to Master Y'shua, according to Prophet Daniel (27:9), according to Paul (II Thess 2:4), according to Prophet John (Rev 13) and many other sources the Jewish people, like the Christians and most very one else, is going to accept this man as the moshiach. There is no way Jews would ever accept a Gentile as their moshiach. To think they would is to insult the Jewish people.

Among the things this Beast of a man will do is:

Rev. 13:16 And he [the Antichrist] causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: 17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

While there remains some debate over the Mark of the Beast a few things are obvious. In order to do this a government would have to be able to identify everyone on earth. There would have been a system in place where it would be impossible for those with the mark to buy or sell. It would have to be some sort of ID that could be placed on or under the skin.

Prior to modern times most of the world grew their own food on local farms. Those who refused to accept the mark could simply grow their own food. But not anymore! With the advent of suicide seeds it is now becoming impossible to store seed for the next years harvest. This means that poor people who can not buy new seeds each year will have no way to grow food (For more Click Here or simply Google "suicide seeds")

I am absolutely convinced that the technology now exists for the first time in human history to establish a globally mandated implant using GPS and RFID technologies that will be able to effectively create a world in which no one can buy or sell except those who have received the implant. Someone writing 2000 years ago would have described this technologies in exactly these terms.

In the United States many animals are already given implants to identify them. But its not only animals:

Friday, May 10, 2002

BOCA RATON, Fla. — A Florida family on Friday became the first to be implanted with computer chips that researchers hope will someday become an easy way to provide emergency room staffers with patients' medical information. For more on this see my story: The Pre-Mark of the Beast is given to human beings for the first time!


At the beginning of this piece I made two two statements:
1. That this is the first generation in history in which the Messiah could come
And
2. That generation has to be it.

I believe I've made the first point although much more can be said.
As for the second point:

Matt 24:32 Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh: 33 So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors. 34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled. 35 Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.

The Tree of Israel put forth its first leaves in 1948 when it was restored as a nation. In 1967 The Holy City was liberated and it could truly be said the Jews had returned to Zion. It can be debated which of these two dates applies to this prophesy, however it is clear that within the generation of 1967, if not 1948, according to Prophet Y'shua, 'all these things will be fulfilled.'

Other relevant prophecies Moshiach will fulfill (Source for more reading):
  • The Sanhedrin will be re-established (Isaiah 1:26): Done
  • Once Moshiach is King, leaders of other nations will look to him for guidance. (Isaiah 2:4)
  • The whole world will worship the One God of Israel (Isaiah 2:17)
  • He will be descended from King David (Isaiah 11:1) via Solomon (1 Chron. 22:8-10)
  • The Moshiach will be a man of this world, an observant Jew with "fear of God" (Isaiah 11:2)
  • Evil and tyranny will not be able to stand before his leadership (Isaiah 11:4)
  • Knowledge of God will fill the world (Isaiah 11:9)
  • He will include and attract people from all cultures and nations (Isaiah 11:10)
  • All Israelites will be returned to their homeland (Isaiah 11:12)
  • Death will be swallowed up forever (Isaiah 25:8)
  • There will be no more hunger or illness, and death will cease (Isaiah 25:8)
  • All of the dead will rise again (Isaiah 26:19)
  • The Jewish people will experience eternal joy and gladness (Isaiah 51:11)
  • He will be a messenger of peace (Isaiah 52:7)
  • Nations will end up recognizing the wrongs they did to Israel (Isaiah 52:13-53:5)
  • The peoples of the world will turn to the Jews for spiritual guidance (Zechariah 8:23)
  • The ruined cities of Israel will be restored (Ezekiel 16:55)
  • Weapons of war will be destroyed (Ezekiel 39:9)
  • The Temple will be rebuilt (Ezekiel 40) resuming many of the suspended mitzvot
  • He will then perfect the entire world to serve God together (Zephaniah 3:9)
  • Jews will know the Torah without study (Jeremiah 31:33, see also New Covenant)
  • He will give you all the desires of your heart (Psalms 37:4)
  • He will take the barren land and make it abundant and fruitful (Isaiah 51:3, Amos 9:13-15, Ezekiel 36:29-30, Isaiah 11:6-9)
And from my reading of the Scriptures this has to be the generation that will witness these things.

This of course has only been a summary look at the prophecies, however I think they are sufficient to make the point. As always, I invite your comments of questions.

Tuesday, October 30, 2007

Yeah but... Could THIS really be the Last Days?




"The Earth Belongs to HaShem and the Fullness Thereof."

When Will These Things Be? (part one)
By John of AllFaith © October 30, 2007

Have you heard this common, "Yeah but" reply?

"Yeah but," they say, "people in every generation have believed they were in the Last Days... so why should we believe this is it?

Makes sense! Right? Some people in many or even most generations have believed they had reached the Last Days. But let's look into this a bit deeper...

The real purport of this argument is the suggestion that the Bible is not clear enough to give specific, dependable information, that the prophets were so vague that their words could mean almost anything! A LOT of people believe this.

But is this true? Or is it that over the centuries people were so desperate to escape life's woes that they failed to base their End Time beliefs on what the biblical prophets actually said?

I was recently re-reading one of my favorite mysteries, The Name of the Rose by Umberto Eco. In the book there are often references made to the coming of Antichrist. Several of the players in that book expected the Antichrist to appear at any moment. As I read one such passage a few days ago it occurred to me that their dialogue explains a lot! Here's the section:



This speaks volumes to our present question!

Yes it is true that some people have "always" expected the Antichrist to appear within their generation, but their assumptions were not harmonious with the biblical prophets.

There's a line I love from Fiddler on the Roof. The town folk have just learned the Russians are kicking them out:

Motel: Rabbi, we've been waiting all our lives for the Messiah. Wouldn't now be a good time for Him to come?
Rabbi: We'll have to wait for him someplace else. Meanwhile, let's start packing.

When times are hard Jews and Christians naturally look heavenward and wonder if the time has finally come for Messiah's arrival. However for Messiah to come certain events must first take place. Until these events happen, the Messiah will not come. Jews and Christians are not in complete agreement about these prophecies (indeed Christians debate these things among themselves!) But there are many similarities. I will be presenting my own understandings here, they differ in part with both Jews and Christians.

In the piece cited above there are many points that are not harmonious with the biblical prophets. For instance, the biblical prophets nowhere speak of two Antichrists, one "mystic" and one "proper," but of one. There is "the spirit of antichrist" that is always present in the world, but a single person will be the Antichrist (more on this below). The biblical role of what the Antichrist will do makes it abundantly clear that he could not have been a Catholic Gentile as the piece suggests. Those who have realized this would have their hopes unfulfilled because they were not based on the Prophets.

Likewise there is no reference to a "sixth age" in the biblical prophecies. There is no reference in the Bible to the Antichrist effecting the de-thronement of a pope nor that the seven heads and ten horns represent seven sins and so on. These things were not spoken by the Prophets and so basing one's expectation of them, when they don't come to pass, says nothing about the actual prophecies. The biblical prophecies will fulfilled as written and this has never yet been possible... until today.

Rather the Bible specifically says what these symbols mean. Reinterpreting what is plainly written will only lead to error and disappointment. As for interpreting the number 666 based on someone's name... well the same can be said of the name Ronald Wilson Reagan and others! There are occasional surface similarities but that is not enough to fulfill prophecy. The prophecy says the Antichrist will be a man. Hey, the guy at the hardware store down the road is man!... We can see where this sort of flawed logic goes.

In order to credibly argue that people in the past believing they were living in the last days calls the credibility of the biblical prophets into question, to make this argument with credibility, one would need to demonstrate that the previous claims were reasonable based on what the prophets actually wrote.

There are many very specific prophecies that must all be fulfilled. Most of the key ones have never been.

Again, it was understandable that people living at the time (1327 CE in the case of the book) would hope to see the Deliverer, but biblically speaking there simply was no way they would and many people who knew the biblical prophecies knew it. This point is made clear by young Adso who exclaims, in response to the inaccurate understandings being discussed, 'But... his successor was Pope John!' The reason this is so powerful an observation is that IF Boniface were the Antichrist then Pope John would have be the messiah!

So yes, historically there were many people who believed the Messiah was coming in their generation, but without exception they believed this in opposition to clear prophetic statements. The fact that for hundreds of years the Christian Church made it illegal for people to read the Bible didn't help of course! And yet throughout the centuries there were always people who knew better, biblically knowledgeable people knew the prophecies and, knowing them, knew they would not witness the coming of Moshiach nor the establishment of his Theocratic Kingdom. If this was true, then they also knew they would not see the rise of the Antichrist who will proceed him.

This situation began even before Master Y'shua died! Life in Roman occupied Israel was very difficult and all the Jews understood the singular promise of the Moshiach's coming: Establishing the Kingdom! If Master Y'shua was the moshiach he would establish the Kingdom... but he didn't seem interested in doing this! First century Jews were not waiting for a Liberator of souls but a Liberator of Jerusalem and all of Eretz Israel! The Moshiach will be the King of the Jews according to the Prophets! This was the meaning of the mocking sign placed over Y'shua's head: "King of the Jews"! That sign said, in effect, 'Your hope be damned! Here's your dead Messiah and Rome still rules! Here's your dead hope!'

Prior to his death prophet Y'shua sat with his followers at the Temple teaching them. At Matthew 24 the disciples gathered and asked him when the Kingdom would be established. They hoped Master Y'shua was the Moshiach, but if he was, why hadn't he yet established the Davidic Kingdom. "When will you do this?" they asked.

In response Master Y'shua dropped a bomb shell! He explained that the Holy City and the Temple would be destroyed! This must have shaken their faith! Messiah is supposed to build the Temple up, not speak of its destruction! He goes on to describe the dispersion of the Jews and their later return to Israel at some point after this horrific destruction. As for when this would happen, he said that even he didn't know (Matt 24:36)! He describes the establishment of an independent Jewish nation, as foretold by Prophet Isaiah and others) and so on, but it is clear that he himself would not live to see it. It is largely for this reason that Jews do not accept that Y'shua was the moshich. Establishing the Kingdom is the central and primary task of the coming King of the Jews.

But the desire for the Kingdom didn't end there! Later on, the Apostles John and Paul added to Master Y'shua's prophetic insights and laid out a very detailed prophetic presentation of how and when the Kingdom would be established. Despite this, some people still hoped for the Messiah and the establishment of the Kingdom in their lifetime, even before the Temple was destroyed! They ignored the plain teachings of Master Y'shua even then! And yet Paul, like the rabbi in Fiddler on the roof says, 'We'll have to wait for him someplace else. Meanwhile, let's start packing.'

II Thessalonian 2
1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,
2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition...

Paul understands the prophecies. He knows that those who were yearning for the kingdom in his day would not see it. He gave very specific information telling them this, information that we'll look at a bit later.

The story played out in The Name of the Rose has occurred countless times through the past two thousand years. People of Jewish and Christian faith hope for the Messiah, sometimes they have imagined things they believe will hasten his coming, and yet, in the absence of certain clearly defined events that would not happen.

Again:

Motel: Rabbi, we've been waiting all our lives for the Messiah. Wouldn't now be a good time for Him to come?
Rabbi: We'll have to wait for him someplace else. Meanwhile, let's start packing.

Since the year 70 CE when Jerusalem fell and the Jews entered into Diaspora (as prophet Y'shua foretold) there has never been a single generation that met the required conditions...

Until this one.

In part two of this study I'll offer evidence that this generation is the first in history that not only could have been the one foretold by the Hebrew prophets, including Y'shua, Paul and John, but that it has to be!

Matt 24:42 Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come.
43 But know this, that if the goodman of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken up.
44 Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh.

No one knows the day nor the hour, this is true, but we absolutely know the "watch," and you and I are living in it!

(With so much going on in the world right now it may take a few days for me to post part two of this study. If you are interested in reading the rest leave a comment. That will encourage me to complete it sooner. I hope to finish this before I leave on November 6th, God willing and the bombs don't drop.)




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Monday, October 29, 2007

And then there was Jimmy Kill the Jews Carter!



If You Still Believe the US Has Two Parties
Look at This!


"Republican" Candi Rice has now turned to "Democrat" Jew Hater Jimmy Carter and North American Union proponent Bill "Burn the Waco babies alive" Clinton to help her determine how to best sell her Luciferian plan to destroy Jerusalem and Israel!

Unreal! The RepubliCrats aren't even hiding anymore!

There is ONLY one political party in the US and it is NOT the traditional Democratic OR Republican party! The United States is NOW a plutocratic neo-fascist dictatorship owned and operated by the Novus Ordo Mundi (New World Order) in preparation for the Novus Ordo Seclorum (New globalist Secular Age). These plutocrats are determined to destroy not only Israel but the US as well! And they are about to succeed while we Americans do nothing!

One good thing has come out of this. Many of my Jewish friends in the past criticized me for not supporting Bush. Now they, like the rest of the world, can clearly see the demonic nature of the New World Order.

Saturday, October 27, 2007

Will You Accept the US National ID Card Coming in May?




Precursor to the Mark of the Beast

At what point is enough enough?



Remember the old saw, "Would you sleep with me for $5.00?"
"No!"
"Would you sleep with me for a million dollars?"
"Well... yeah..."
"How about for $20.00?"
"What kind of person do you think I am!"
"Expensive but willing!"

What's your price? How much will you take before you finally say no? Or will you say no?

This coming May (2008) millions of Americans may decide to take our stand.

The prophecies speak of the Mark of the Beast, without which no one can buy or sell anything. This new national ID card will NOT be the Mark of the Beast, but it will be yet another precursor to the Microchip or RFID implant that will, when perfected, be the mark described in Rev 13:16-18:

Rev. 13:16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.

So, at what point will you stand up and say no!? Or will you be among the vast majority who willingly accept the Mark of the Beast? I know many of my Christian friends expect to be Raptured away before the Mark is released, but I beg to differ. There will be no Rapture in this context (Click Here). If things go according to the NWO plans, you will need to make that choice within the next seven months. As with my previous post about the up-coming Thought Crimes legislation (Click Here), this is very real. Will you stand?

The ID card will probably be combined with the driver's license. Those who refuse the card will not be able to legally drive. All the things that require proper ID will no longer be available to those without this national ID card. The card will almost certainly be linked with the airlines, so no card and you're grounded! This is one reason I am going back east in two weeks to visit family and friends, soon I may not be able to travel. Those who have the card may well receive discounts on various items, even as grocery cards and some petrol stations now use member cards. Will you recieve the Card to save money? To fly? To drive? To avoid being hassled by the police and feds?

Decide.

Will you accept the card? Will you accept the 'improved' cards that are sure to follow it? Will you pledge your allegiance to the government to get the card? Will you accept the implant when its available? Will you pledge your loyalty to the world government to receive it? Will swear alliegience to coming Rex Mundi? The one called Little Horn, Antichrist or Dijal? I wont! Most will.

But... what point is too far?

Frankly I am not sure what I'll do about the card yet, but I'm inclined to reject it. I do know that I will refuse the implant to the death... I want to see exactly what the card is and what it entails before deciding, but in all likelihood the introduction of the National ID Card, whether in May of next year or a bit later, will probably be the date I become a non-person.

But before the the implant...

National ID Card Rules Unveiled

Ryan Singel (Source)
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Homeland Security officials released long-delayed guidelines that turn state-issued identification cards into de facto internal passports Thursday, estimating the changes will cost states and individuals $23 billion over 10 years.

The move prompted a new round of protest from civil libertarians and security experts, who called on Congress to repeal the 2005 law known as the Real ID Act that mandates the changes.

Critics, such as American Civil Liberties Union attorney Tim Sparapani, charge that the bill increases government access to data on Americans and amplifies the risk of identity theft, without providing significant security benefits.

"Real ID creates the largest single database about U.S. people that has ever been created," Sparapani said. "This is the people who brought you long lines at the DMV marrying the people at DHS who brought us Katrina. It's a marriage we need to break up."

Homeland Security officials point to the 9/11 hijackers' ability to get driver's licenses in Virginia using false information as justification for the sweeping changes.

"Raising the security standards on driver's licenses establishes another layer of protection to prevent terrorists from obtaining and using fake documents to plan or carry out an attack," Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff said in a press release...

[Contrast this with the current controversy about New York and other states issuing driver's licences to illegal immigrants!]

The 162 pages of proposed rules (.pdf) require:

  • Applicants must present a valid passport, certified birth certificate, green card or other valid visa documents to get a license and states must check all other states' databases to ensure the person doesn't have a license from another state.
  • States must use a card stock that glows under ultraviolet light, and check digits, hologramlike images and secret markers.
  • Identity documents must expire before eight years and must include legal name, date of birth, gender, digital photo, home address and a signature. [Its just a coincidence I'm sure, but the Antichrist will reign for seven years!], States can propose ways to let judges, police officers and victims of domestic violence keep their addresses off the cards. There are no religious exemptions for veils or scarves for photos. [this is important because when Christians and other refuse to accept it on religious grounds that option will be refused from the outset. This suggests that these NWO Plutocrats understand what they are doing... they are developing the technology of the Beast!].
  • States must keep copies of all documents, such as birth certificates, Social Security cards and utility bills, for seven to 10 years.

However, many difficult questions, such as how state databases will be linked or how homeless people can get identity documents, were left unanswered by the proposed rules. Citizens of states that don't abide by the guidelines will not be able to enter federal courthouses or use their identity cards to board a commercial flight.

Sophia Cope, a staff attorney at the centrist Center for Democracy and Technology, says the rules only mention privacy once.

"The Real ID Act does not include language that lets DHS prescribe privacy requirements, so there are no privacy regulations related to exchange of personal information between the states, none about skimming of the data on the magnetic stripe, and no limits on use of information by the feds," Cope said.

The Real ID Act, slipped into an emergency federal funding bill without hearings, originally required states to begin issuing the ID documents by May 2008. The proposed rules allow states to ask for an extension until Jan. 1, 2010.

Cope wants Congress to step in and rewrite the rules. The ACLU and Jim Harper, a libertarian policy analyst at the Cato Institute who specializes in identity and homeland security issues, agree.

"With five-plus years behind us, now is the time to be looking at what works and what doesn't work," Harper said. "Students of identification know that a national ID does not help with security."

Maine has already declared it will not follow the rules, and other states are close to joining that rebellion. In Congress, a bipartisan coalition is forming around bills that would repeal portions of the Real ID Act, but it is unclear if today's rules will slow or accelerate these efforts.

You may recall what happened last time a group of states united to refuse to abide by federal mandates... the War of Northern Aggression!

The United States is not mentioned in ANY biblical prophecy. This may be the move that leads to our demise and to the rise of the EU as the western Superpower as described in the Bible. As always, time will tell... but the End is Near.


You Must Decide
"Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God,
that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand."

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Wednesday, October 24, 2007

Vaisnavism is an ancient Hindu Sect that worships Lord Visnu as the Supreme God or Bhagavan.

Like most Hindu sub-religions, Vaisnavism is a very diverse spiritual and religious movement. In the west the most well known Vaisnava sect is the Brahma Madhva Gaudiya Vaisnava Sampradaya. This is to say the disciplic succession of mythic and historic Vaisnava masters (acaryas) that began with Lord Visnu and passed through Lord Brahma (the Creator),  Srila Madvacarya (1238-1317) and Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu (1486-1534). I am honored to be a member of this lineage.

It is my honor to manage the Yahoo E-Group of one of the Brahma Madhva Gaudiya Vaisnava Sampradaya maths (or sects) for my Guru Maharaj, His Divine Grace Srila Bhakti Bibudha Bodhayan Maharaja, acarya and spiritual master of the Sri Gopinath Gaudiya Math. Just to be clear, I'm not a typical Vaisnava and my beliefs should be considered indicative of this (or any other) group.

For information on Srila Bodhayan's Group Click Here

Among Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Prabhupada's disciples was my first Guru Maharaj:

His Divine Grace A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada (founder/acarya of the International Society for Krishna Consciousness, ISKCON). After Srila Bhaktivedanta Swami left his body  (Click Here for questions surrounding his death) ISKCON was rocked by scandals and today has myriad initiating gurus leading it despite the clear instructions of Srila Prabhupada to the contrary. The vast majority of Srila Prabhupada's devotees left ISKCON).

Visit the Official Gopinath Gaudiya Math Web Domain

Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Thakur Prabhupada's senior disciple was His Divine Grace Srila Bhakti Pramode Puri Goswami Maharaj, founder/acarya and spiritual master of the Sri Gopinath Gaudiya Math.

Srila Bhakti Pramode Puri Goswami appointed His Divine Grace Srila Bhakti Bibudha Bodhayan Maharaja as his successor and acarya of the Sri Gopinath Gaudiya Math.  

As I say, Hinduism, Vaisnavism and the Brahma Madhva Gaudiya Vaisnava Sampradaya is a diverse movement. To facilatate open discussions among all Vaisnavas and others who are interested in this movement, I have just created a new group. So, if you are interested in discussing Vaisnava topics, regardless of your math or views, you are welcome to join us:

For information on this new discussion Group Click Here

Life in a Nursing Home

This was sent to me from a friend. I thought I'd share it with you. It speaks truth.
 
Crabby Old Man

What do you see nurses? ...What do you see?
What are you thinking.....when you're looking at me?
A crabby old man, ...not very wise,
Uncertain of habit ........with faraway eyes?

Who dribbles his food.......and makes no reply.
When you say in a loud voice.....'I do wish you'd try!'
Who seems not to notice ..the things that you do.
And forever is losing .......... A sock or shoe?

Who, resisting or not...........lets you do as you will,
With bathing and feeding .... The long day to fill?
Is that what you're thinking? Is that what you see?
Then open your eyes, nurse......you're not looking at me.

I'll tell you who I am ......... As I sit here so still,
As I do at your bidding, .....as I eat at your will.
I'm a small child of Ten.......with a father and mother,
Brothers and sisters .........who love one another

A young boy of Sixteen ..with wings on his feet
Dreaming that soon now. ......a lover he'll meet.
A groom soon at Twenty ......my heart gives a leap.
Remembering, the vows......that I promised to keep.

At Twenty-Five, now ......... I have young of my own.
Who need me to guide .... And a secure happy home.
A man of Thirty ......... My young now grown fast,
Bound to each other ........ With ties that should last.

At Forty, my young sons ..have gr own and are gone,
But my woman's beside me.......to see I don't mourn.
At Fifty, once more, ......... Babies play 'round my knee,
Again, we know children ....... My loved one and me.

Dark days are upon me ............... My wife is now dead.
I look at the future ..............I shudder with dread.
For my young are all rearing......young of their own.
And I think of the years....... And the love that I've known.

I'm now an old man.........and nature is cruel.
Tis jest t o make old age ......look like a fool.
The body, it crumbles..........grace and vigor, depart.
There is now a stone........where I once had a heart.

But inside this old carcass ...... A young guy still dwells,
And now and again .......my battered heart swells
I remember the joys........... I remember the pain.
And I'm loving and living.............life over again.

I think of the years ..all too few......gone too fast.
And accept the stark fact........that nothing can last.
So open your eyes, people ..........open and see..
Not a crabby old man. Look closer....see........ME!!


Tuesday, October 23, 2007

My Interfaith List and the Coming Desecration of Jerusalem

On my Interfaith Prayer List I ran a poll about possibly discussing next month's plans to divide Jerusalem (should such a thing happen God forbid!). I was the only one who voted either way, so I guess we wont be talking about it. BUT today a member sent in a modern prophecy about the United States that was allegedly made in the 1990's. I'd like to offer that post, the link to the prophecy, and my response here.

I'd also like to invite those who are interested to join my Interfaith Prayer list
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Hi everyone,

I recently posted the poll about possibly discussing the upcoming desecration of Jerusalem on this list but I was the only member to vote in it. From this, I have to assume it is the unanimous desire of this group that we not get into this topic and I intend to honor this. It will remain a major topic on my blogs (http://johnofallfaith.multiply.com), but not here.

However... as you brought this up Paula, speaking for myself, while there are certain theological issues I don't accept in this modern prophecy, from my cursory reading of the site I think its on the mark.

The United States is not mentioned in any biblical prophecy. This has long led me to the conclusion that the US will not be a major player in the End Time events. The only way this would be the case is if the US falls before the rise of the Rex Mundi (Antichrist/Dijal).

Next month the United States intends to force Israel to accept the partition of the Holy City, something which the biblical prophets specifically say can never happen again. In the Torah HaShem plainly says He will bless those who bless Israel and curse those who curse them. Since at least the 1950's the US has been progressively rejecting God in public and private life. When Bush and Candi Rice perform this desecration of the Holy City of Zion next month it may well be the death nail in our (US) coffin. It may also lead to an Israeli civil war as President Ehud Olmert is despised by most Israelis (as is our dictator here in the US). This could well lead to World War Three. Indeed Israelis and others are calling on the world to:

Support The Israeli No-Confidence Motion:
1) Send everybody you know to:
http://www.strongis rael.org/

2) If they are an Israeli citizen, they can sign the motion. If not,
they can sign the Declaration of Solidarity, also provided there.
This Declaration of Solidarity is for citizens of any country to
express their support for the Israeli patriots.

3) Please ask those who will receive your appeal to spread the word in
turn.

4) If you have a blog, write a short note about this and provide the
link.

5) Write to other blogs, and ask them to make their readers aware of
this.

6) Write to the various websites that defend Israel and ask them to
write an article about this motion.

7) If you would like to do more, reply to this email.

Thanks for posting this information Paula.
And Please Pray for the Peace of Jerusalem

~John of AllFaith
(List Owner)
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>>>Look what this guy wrote in the year 1999, about our present day wars
with Iraq, about the World Trade Center bombings, and about what
our every day life would soon be like in America. All of it obviously
describing these and a zillion other things, years before they ever took
place. As Americans we had better hope his last prophecies are not as
accurate as the eighty or so that are spelled out in these 1999
prophecies. All of it documented with over a hundred recent photos.
Better hope this guy is wrong with his very descriptive prophecies re:
the America he says we are soon to see. Then, they provide a forum
for comments, and to read the comments made by others, but you can
now respond anonymously.

http://www.americas-demise.org/161_Woe_To_America_n-i.html

Paula


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Friday, March 30, 2007

A good interview with Larry Kramer March 29, 2007

It was 20 years ago this week
That Sergeant Larry taught the band to speak!
And his band plays on!
A good interview with Larry Kramer
(Watch or listen to this interview here)



AMY GOODMAN: Twenty years ago this week, 250 AIDS activists traveled to Wall Street to protest the high price of antiviral drugs and the Reagan administration's failure to address the AIDS crisis. The date: March 24, 1987. Activists lay down in the intersection of Wall Street and Broadway, blocking traffic. Some held cardboard tombstones. Seventeen of them were arrested. It was the first of many actions led by a newly formed group called the AIDS Coalition to Unleash Power, or ACT UP. The group's motto was “Silence equals death.”

ACT UP would go on to invade the offices of drug companies and scientific labs, storm St. Patrick’s Cathedral in New York, cover the home of Jesse Helms in a giant condom, and conduct die-ins at the FDA.

In October 1992, members of ACT UP headed to Washington, where the AIDS quilt was on display. They decided to throw the ashes of loved ones who died of AIDS onto the grass of the White House. The event was captured in the documentary, The Ashes Action.

ACT UP ACTIVIST: I think the quilt itself does good stuff and is moving. Still, it's like making something beautiful out of the epidemic, and I felt like doing something like is a way of showing there is nothing beautiful about it. You know, this is what I’m left with. I’ve got a box full of ashes and bone chips. You know, there's no beauty in that. And I felt like a statement like this, throwing these on the White House lawn, is like saying this is what George Bush has done. You know, this is what him and Ronald Reagan before him have done.

DEMONSTRATORS: Bringing the dead to your door! We won't take it anymore! Bringing the dead to your door! We won't take it anymore! Bringing the dead to your door! We won't take it anymore! Bringing the dead to your door! We won't take it anymore! Bringing the dead to your door! We won't take it anymore!

AMY GOODMAN: An excerpt of the documentary, The Ashes Action. Well, this month, ACT UP, the AIDS Coalition to Unleash Power, is marking its twentieth anniversary. Today, hundreds of members of ACT Up are heading back to Wall Street, this time to demand a single-payer healthcare system and drug price controls.

Among those who will be walking will be the activist and writer Larry Kramer. In 1983, he helped found the Gay Men's Health Crisis, the country's first AIDS organization. Four years later, he helped form ACT UP. He is a legendary and controversial figure in the gay rights movement. In the early 1980s, Larry Kramer wrote some of the first articles warning about the AIDS epidemic. One article was called "1,112 and Counting." At the time, there were just over a thousand known cases of AIDS. He wrote, "Unless we fight for our lives we shall die... every gay man who is unable to come forward now and fight to save his own life is truly helping to kill the rest of us." Larry Kramer has also written many plays, including The Normal Heart and The Destiny of Me.


Larry was diagnosed with HIV in the mid-1980s. He nearly died in 2001 from Hepatitis B in the liver. He is now over seventy years old. Larry Kramer joins us today in our firehouse studio. Welcome to Democracy Now!

LARRY KRAMER: Thank you for having me here.

AMY GOODMAN: It’s great to have you with us.

LARRY KRAMER: Thank you. It moves me to see the footage of the ashes. I never saw that film, and so many of those faces are dead. And it’s still hard to look at that.

AMY GOODMAN: Larry, let's go back twenty years. Well, let's go back to when you wrote that very controversial piece, that wake-up call to this country: “1,112 and Counting.” What were the circumstances at the time?

LARRY KRAMER: Whatever was happening happened in my group of friends in 1981, when the first article appeared in the New York Times saying forty-one cases. And I immediately went to the doctor had made the announcement, and he said, “I think this is just the tip of the iceberg” -- Dr. Friedman-Kien at New York University. And I just knew he was right. And as I say --

AMY GOODMAN: What did you understand it was at the time?

LARRY KRAMER: Well, I mean, he said he thought it was a virus. He said the same thing that the government refused to say: I think it’s a virus, and I think you should stop having sex, and I think you should cool it, certainly. And no one wanted to hear any of that. And, of course, the virus wasn't discovered officially until 1984. So people didn't want to believe that terrible news.

I just knew it. We had had so many illnesses in our population before, a lot of syphilis, a lot of gonorrhea, a lot of amoebas, a lot of hepatitis. And it was like everything was being escalated. And I said, “That's the next thing that’s happening to us.” It just made so much sense to me. I don’t know why. Everyone says, “Oh, you were so prescient.” I don’t think it was prescience. I thought it was as clear as the nose on everybody's face, if they cared to look.

And, as I say, my friends first died; in my population, the kids on Fire Island, all the houses around us at Fire Island Pines, were the first people who died. So I called a meeting in my apartment and invited everybody I knew and said, “We've got to do something.” Dr. Friedman-Kien spoke to us. A lot of people didn't want to believe. Most people didn’t want to believe. And there were just a handful of us who started meeting regularly, as regularly as you could get a bunch of people together in those days.

And then, in February of ’82, I said, “We've got to formalize this,” and I invited six people to my apartment. And I said, “We have to make a formal organization or something.” And somebody said, “Gay men certainly have a health crisis.” And I said, “That's our title. That's what we'll call ourselves.” And I got my brother's law firm to -- not easily -- to do the pro bono work for us, and we established ourselves.

And, unfortunately, Gay Men’s Health Crisis became a pastoral organization, rather than an activist organization. That was a major disappointment to me. They would not take a stand. The president was in the closet, and all they wanted to do was pass out information about what might be happening -- no recommendations, no political pressure of any sort.

I was not a political person in 1981. I had been a film producer. I had been assistant to the president of United Artists and then Columbia Pictures, never participated in gay politics, never marched in a gay parade -- basically a shy person. And I learned my lesson slowly, what you had to do to fight. And it’s a long lesson, and one is still learning it, and one is still sad to see that so few other people have learned it.

AMY GOODMAN: What do you mean the president was in the closet?

LARRY KRAMER: The president of Gay Men’s Health Crisis, whose name was Paul Popham, now dead. He was an executive with what was then called Irving Trust Company. And he was in the closet at work, so he would not appear in public. He was a very handsome man, and I would say -- this is all dramatized in my play, The Normal Heart -- I would say, “Look at you. You’re so handsome! Go out there and be our spokesperson.” You know, I’m too live a wire. I scare people. And he couldn't do it. He wouldn’t do it. So there were a lot of fights about visibility. And one realized then, in those days, you didn't bring people out of the closet. Now, you do. I mean, now, when a public official is gay, we bring him out of the closet fast, if we can, because they are basically helping to murder us, if we don't.

AMY GOODMAN: Why? How do you see that?

LARRY KRAMER: Well, you know, I’m telling everybody not -- I’m telling the gay world not to vote for any of these candidates now, right now, that are up for election, because they’re all against us. They all -- there isn’t a public official out there, there isn’t anybody running for public office now who would not sell gay people down the river given half a chance. And so, I brought a piece in the LA Times recently saying this is hate. You know, this is hate, that we're so treated this way. And if you're voting for these people, then you're basically saying you hate us, too. It's been never-ending.

AMY GOODMAN: If you could talk about the actions, to say the least, they were creative over the years, quite astonishing actions.

LARRY KRAMER: That's gay people for you.

AMY GOODMAN: Among them, the ACT UP action on the floor of the New York Stock Exchange.

LARRY KRAMER: That was our very first -- no, it wasn’t. It was a further demo -- bunch of guys who worked in Wall Street, who were ACT UP members, put on their suits and ties and managed to make fake IDs, and they, for the first time in history, infiltrated the floor of the Stock Exchange, and they showered the floor with fliers saying “Sell Wellcome.” That was Burroughs Wellcome, the maker of AZT, who said -- antivirals. That was the only one then, and it was very expensive, and it wasn't very good. And we were basically making the statement: it's not good enough, and it’s too expensive. And they did lower the price because of that. However, they raised the price of another drug, but we made a point.

We had success from the very beginning, I must say. The very first demo that you talked of, that night a bunch of guys infiltrated the Evening News on CBS with Dan Rather, and he's making his news -- you know, he's reading the news, and suddenly there are all these ACT UP kids in the back with signs.

AMY GOODMAN: We're going to break, but we’re going to come back to that action against the news media, against -- it was CBS, it was the PBS NewsHour with Jim Lehrer, and they had made their way onto the sets of the Evening News. Larry Kramer is our guest. We'll be back in a minute.

[break]

AMY GOODMAN: Our guest is the legendary activist and author and playwright Larry Kramer, as we talk about this twentieth anniversary of the activist organization ACT UP, the AIDS Coalition to Unleash Power, which he helped found in 1987. We are showing video images of various protests through this broadcast, and for those who are listening on the radio, they are available at our website at democracynow.org to view. Larry, as we were watching, you were commenting.

LARRY KRAMER: I was just saying, most of the faces you'll be seeing are dead, are guys who died. It is very moving to watch.

AMY GOODMAN: In your first article on the subject of AIDS, that was before “1,112 and Counting,” you said, “If I had written this a month ago, I would have used the figure forty. If I had written this last week, I would have needed eighty. Today, I must tell you 120 gay men in the United States.”

LARRY KRAMER: Yes. Well, now there's 70 million people with HIV, who have died or have it. An awful lot of people helped that happen. It takes a lot of government inaction to allow 70 million people to get infected. My particular -- I have a letter in the New York Review of Books. I have never appeared in the New York Review of Books before. They actually published a letter of mine about Ronald Reagan being a monster and that he was responsible for more deaths than Adolf Hitler, because his entire seven-eight years in office, next to nothing was done on HIV, on AIDS. They didn't even put out a public health warning to say “Be careful,” allowing people to think everything was OK. So during those seven years, just about every gay man who had sex anywhere in the world had been exposed to the virus. If somebody at the NIH, just someone had just said, “Just cool it for a while, guys. Just, please -- we think it's a virus,” whatever -- hateful, hateful man, and that he should have a legacy that's somehow being lauded as a great one is very painful to me.

AMY GOODMAN: He mentioned the word “AIDS” somewhere around year six or seven of his term?

LARRY KRAMER: Seven. It was in an AmFAR benefit in Washington, D.C. I was there. He said it in a very derogatory way. Everybody that was gay in the audience booed him. Dr. Krim, Mathilde Krim, of the AmFAR had said, “If you boo him, I’m going to leave and walk out,” which she did not do. And he was really upset that somebody actually booed him. I remember it as if it were yesterday.

AMY GOODMAN: What do you feel stopped him from saying this for the vast majority of his term?

LARRY KRAMER: Well, Gary Bauer, who was his domestic policy advisor, in a meeting with me in 1983 in the White House office said these words, that the President is unalterably and irrevocably opposed to anything having to do with homosexuality. So nothing was done. It's not dissimilar to the tactics that Hitler used, that he passed on the word that he was not interested in a certain thing, and the whole administration wasn't interested, basically. It happens. It's happening now with the terrible president we have now.

AMY GOODMAN: I wanted to jump forward from Reagan to the Gulf War. That's when this protest took place in the CBS Evening News studios, as well as at the McNeil-Lehrer NewsHour where in the case of CBS, people who were pretending to be on a tour of CBS, broke away, got into the studio as Dan Rather was beginning his cast, popped their heads up and said, in the cast, “Fight AIDS, not Arabs! Fight AIDS, not Arabs!” I think in the case of the McNeil-Lehrer NewsHour, activists got onto the set, as the broadcast was happening, and chained themselves to the desk, the news desk.

LARRY KRAMER: Gay people have a wonderful amount of imagination. We like to joke. We’re like Mickey and Judy putting on a show, for those of you who remember Judy Garland and Mickey Rooney and all those musicals, where they -- “Let’s put on a show!” Well, that was how we dealt with our street actions.

AMY GOODMAN: In talking about the history of ACT UP, let's go to 1989. I’d like to play an excerpt of a program called Stop the Church, about ACT UP’s protest against the Catholic Church at St. Patrick’s Cathedral in New York.

ACT UP ACTIVIST: Children are dying of AIDS, and the Church has no business telling our children not to use condoms!

ACT UP ACTIVIST: How many more have to die?

NARRATOR: All eyes were not on the pulpit at St. Patrick’s Cathedral today, as dozens of members of the AIDS Coalition to Unleash Power turned morning mass into a holy mess.

ACT UP ACTIVIST: Prayers won’t save the 1.0 to 1.5 million people infected by human immunodeficiency virus!

AMY GOODMAN: That's an excerpt of Stop the Church by Robert Hilferty.

LARRY KRAMER: Unfortunately, you don't have this incredible shot of Cardinal O’Connor just sitting up there, like, “Oh, my god, what is going on here?”

AMY GOODMAN: What about your focus on the Catholic Church and the protests even within the Church that were so controversial?

LARRY KRAMER: It was an amazing demonstration. There were a lot of Catholic kids in ACT UP, and they were very angry, not only because of the Church refusing to acknowledge what was happening to us, but for their attitude about homosexuality, declaring these kids sick. And so, there was a lot of anger. And the demonstration was wonderful. I think that's the demonstration that made ACT UP, quite frankly, because there was a lot of -- an enormous amount of media criticizing us, in editorials, everywhere. “How dare we interrupt the church service and people's right to worship?” and all that. And suddenly, we were not longer limp-wristed fairies. We were men in black boots and black jeans and tough, and that became our image. And it made us, I think. And people were suddenly afraid of us.

I can remember, not shortly thereafter, going to a meeting with one of the drug companies that I was sitting -- Hoffmann-La Roche -- and sitting next to a doctor who was shaking. And I asked somebody else during a break, why is doctor so-and-so shaking? And they said, “He's afraid of you.” And I thought, “Holy mackerel! That’s what we need.” That’s a good feeling. You’ve got to realize, I was a shy person. You probably -- people don’t believe that, but I was.

AMY GOODMAN: Well, ACT UP, the organization that you helped found, certainly gave tremendous power and attention to the issue of AIDS all over. Talk about the founding of ACT UP. Now, in that year, 1987, twenty years ago, was that when you were diagnosed HIV-positive?

LARRY KRAMER: Yeah, you raise the similarity of times. I don’t remember that. I had my test in ’87, and ACT UP was started in ’87, but I don't know that there was a connection, quite frankly, because it was all one continuous day. What motivates me about all of this is how wrong everything was and is. It's wrong that people with HIV have been treated so terribly. It's wrong that gay people are treated so terribly. It's wrong that there's this hate. The straight world, for the most part, does not like gay people. And we have tried every tactic known to man to somehow change this. You know, there is 65% of this country, according to the Gill Foundation, basically hates us. And I don’t know how you deal with that, short of slamming as many pies in their faces as we can.

And the state of activism in this country for any movement, as you well know -- women, blacks, gays -- is in terrible shape. Nobody wants to go out there and be an activist anymore. So this attempt today to revive ACT UP and have this demonstration for universal healthcare is an attempt to relight the flame.

AMY GOODMAN: You recently published an open letter in the Los Angeles Times. It was titled, “Why Do Straights Hate Gays?” You begin by mentioning recent comments by Ann Coulter and General Peter Pace, the chair of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. I want to play excerpts of what they both said and then talk to you about the article. This is Ann Coulter.
ANN COULTER: I was going to have a few comments on the other Democratic presidential candidate, John Edwards, but it turns out that you have to go into rehab if you use the word “faggot.” So, I’m kind of at an impasse, can’t really talk about Edwards, so I think I’ll conclude here and take your questions.

AMY GOODMAN: That was Ann Coulter speaking at the annual Conservative Political Action Conference in early March. A few weeks later, General Peter Pace, the chair of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said this in an interview with the Chicago Tribune.

GEN. PETER PACE: My upbringing is such that I believe that there are certain things, certain types of conduct, that are immoral. I believe that military members who sleep with other military members’ wives are immoral in their conduct and that we should not tolerate that. I believe that homosexual acts between individuals are immoral and that we should not condone immoral acts. So the “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” allows an individual to serve the country, not -- [inaudible] stop there -- that allows individuals to serve their country. If we know about immoral acts, regardless of committed by who or -- then we have a responsibility. I do not believe that the Armed Forces of the United States are well served by saying through our policies that it’s OK to be immoral in any way, not just with regards to homosexuality. So from that standpoint, saying that gays should serve openly in the military, to me, says that we, by policy, would be condoning what I believe is immoral activity. And therefore, as an individual, I would not want that to be our policy, just like I would not want it to be our policy that, if were to find out that so-and-so was sleeping with someone else’s wife, that we would just look the other way, which we do not. We prosecute that kind of immoral behavior between members of the Armed Forces.

AMY GOODMAN: General Peter Pace, the chair of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, in an interview with the Chicago Tribune. Before that, Ann Coulter. Larry Kramer, you have got your hand on your forehead.

LARRY KRAMER: I wish people could recognize this for the hate it is. All those people laughing with Ann Coulter, supporting her as she says these terrible things about gay people. You cannot talk publicly anymore about Jews that way. You cannot talk publicly anymore about people of color that way. Why are gays allowed to be still and forever endlessly the whipping boy? How can the general, who has 65,000 gay men and women under his command, talk about his soldiers that way? It really makes them feel good as they're going into battle. I mean, that’s unconscionable, what he says. There are 20 million gay people in this world -- in this country. And I wish I had my army of 20 million people out there, instead of the few hundred that we do.

AMY GOODMAN: You wrote a book called Faggots.

LARRY KRAMER: I wrote a book called The Tragedy of Today's Gays last year, about just what we’re talking about, how gays simply will not go out there and fight for their own lives.

AMY GOODMAN: But that use of the term, “faggots,” talk about Coulter and talk about your use of it.

LARRY KRAMER: Well, I wrote the book in 1975. It was published in 1978. Things were a little different then. And it was a book that was -- it was critical of the gay world. And I think that the title references that in the book. It's still a best-selling novel, I’m happy to say.

AMY GOODMAN: Well, talking about the Conservative Political Action Committee, the conference that took place, where Ann Coulter referred to Edwards in that way, in 1985 at a fundraiser in Washington, you flung a glass of water in the face of Terry Dolan, the founder of the National Conservative Political Action Committee.

LARRY KRAMER: Oh, really? Same organization? Yeah.

AMY GOODMAN: Why?

LARRY KRAMER: Because I knew he was gay. He was in the closet, and he was doing all these terrible things against his own people. And it was a gay party. It was a gay cocktail party in Washington. And he showed up at it. And I said, “How dare you” -- I had been to a discotheque with him, a gay discotheque with him a few months before. I said, “How dare you show up at a gay party after all the things you're doing against us with your conservative action thing?” Very strange man, who died from AIDS, I might add.

AMY GOODMAN: And the action of putting a condom on the house of the former Senator Jesse Helms?

LARRY KRAMER: Yes. What about it?

AMY GOODMAN: How was this done?

LARRY KRAMER: Well, we had a very large condom made, and we snuck in in the dead of night and threw it over his house. He wasn't in it at the time. And, unfortunately, for various problems with the media, it didn't get as much publicity as it should have done. You're always at the mercy of whatever the big story is that day, and there was a fire or something else that was more important.

AMY GOODMAN: Talk about taking on the drug companies. I mean, we, today -- in the world, there are 40 million people around the world, according to the United Nations, who have HIV. An estimated 25 million have died. How could this --

LARRY KRAMER: It should total 70. I don't know if that is. I don’t trust the United Nations figures as far as I can throw them.

AMY GOODMAN: It’s close. How do you think, from the beginning, this could have been dealt with differently, and how do you think it has to be dealt with today?

LARRY KRAMER: You know, when you have a health emergency, public officials have a responsibility. The mayor of New York, who refused to say boo about this to his own city, which was hardest hit of any cities. The President certainly didn't do anything. His government certainly didn't do anything. Why ACT UP came along, which was -- you know ’87 was already six years after this had already started -- was kids were just terrified of dying, all around us. People have no idea what it was like. Everybody walked down the street, and you would hear about five more guys who died. It just went on and on and on.

And so, finally, the kids were just terrified and were prepared to become very brave activists, and how do you -- we taught ourselves everything we could possibly teach ourselves about the science of it, about the research of it, about the chemistry of it, about the bureaucracy of it, about how you get through the governmental system. And soon, we knew more than the NIH did, and we proved it to them. And we are the ones that were instrumental in going to the drug companies and making them research it and making them get these drugs out there faster. We, in one instance, in the case of Bristol-Myers, we actually stole a drug from their Canadian laboratories, which was very promising, and we said, “If you don't release this now, we are going to duplicate it ourselves and put it out.” Got that drug out there very fast. That's what you got to do.

AMY GOODMAN: You had Dr. Fauci in your sites for a long time.

LARRY KRAMER: Yes.

AMY GOODMAN: His position was head of the Centers for Disease Control --

LARRY KRAMER: No, no. He's head of NIAID, National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Disease. He still is. He's the government's chief person on HIV, has been all along. He was terrible for many years. He then became a true hero. I called him a murderer early on, and I now call him a hero. That’s his development, and it was moving to watch as it happened.

AMY GOODMAN: The New Yorker magazine credited you with helping to revolutionize the American practice of medicine. The magazine quoted Dr. Anthony Fauci, saying, “In American medicine, there are two eras: before Larry and after Larry.”

LARRY KRAMER: That made me feel very good. This whole drama over these years has been a zillion life lessons every single day.

AMY GOODMAN: We have to go to another break, but when we come back, I want to ask how you have dealt with being HIV-positive and your own liver -- your liver was removed?

LARRY KRAMER: I have a transplant.

AMY GOODMAN: You have a liver transplant, highly unusual. And we want to talk about that.

LARRY KRAMER: Fine.

AMY GOODMAN: Stay with us. We're talking to Larry Kramer.

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AMY GOODMAN: We're spending the hour with Larry Kramer. He is the legendary AIDS activist, provocative activist -- some say “provocateur” -- author, playwright, wrote The Normal Heart, wrote The Destiny of Me, the plays. His most recent book is called The Tragedy of Today's Gays.

You are wearing a t-shirt that says, "Where is the outrage?” Larry, and people may be hearing your bracelets hitting against the table. Describe them and why you wear them.

LARRY KRAMER: I wear turquoise, and I never take it off, because in 19-- when I came down from Yale in 1958 or something, I went to a fortune teller, and she said to me, “You must always wear something with turquoise. It will look after you.” And I never paid much attention to it. And then, when I learned that I was HIV-positive, I started paying attention. And then, when I started getting sick, which was over the years in the late ’90s, I just loaded myself with more and more turquoise, because the American Indians believed that turquoise does take care of you and look after your health. And why not? It's as good a superstition as any. I’m still here, and I never take it off.

AMY GOODMAN: ”Where is the outrage?” the t-shirt.

LARRY KRAMER: ”Where is the outrage?” is by the gay fashion designer Marc Jacobs, and I saw a picture of it somewhere, and I rushed over, and I bought six of them, and you can buy them from him on Bleecker Street.

AMY GOODMAN: Talk about your own health struggles over the years. Right around ’87, you're diagnosed HIV-positive.

LARRY KRAMER: I have been extraordinarily lucky. I have no idea why I’m here. I have never been sick with anything having to do with HIV. When I didn't need any drugs -- and I never had any drugs until my liver caved in -- and every time, there was always a new drug to take. You know, so many people died because of timing, because they couldn't hold on until the next treatment came along. For whatever reason, I held on. Who knows? I’ve got good genes or whatever, my turquoise.

In about 2000, my liver started caving in from the Hepatitis B. And there’s this incredible picture that was in Newsweek. I looked like Demi Moore, you know, with triplets inside of me. I was all blown up like a balloon, and I was told I only had six months to live, because there was no way I was eligible for a liver transplant. They simply were not giving HIV or Hep B people organ transplants. And I accepted that, and I was ready to die. So many of my friends already had. So I figured I had had a good run for my money.

And then, lo and behold, there was a clinical trial out of the NIH. They were looking for people like me to see if transplanting people with HIV or Hepatitis B or C actually worked. “Here I am! Here I am!” I said. A lot of people were unwilling to go into the trial, because the results that far had not been good. But I got my liver in 2001. Dr. John Fung, then at the University of Pittsburgh, now at Cleveland Clinic, did it. And I’m now his poster boy. It’s an amazing experience to be -- I only had a couple weeks left by the time they replaced the liver. He said, “You have no idea how close you came before I was able to plop in the new one.” And then to wake up and -- I told my lover, David Webster --

AMY GOODMAN: You've been with David for ten years?

LARRY KRAMER: Now, fifteen.

AMY GOODMAN: Fifteen years.

LARRY KRAMER: Yeah. And I said, “I want your face to be the first one I see when I come out, so I know that I’ll have lived.” Amazing experience. And I’m in perfect health now, perfect health, and it’s an incredible experience.

AMY GOODMAN: The average life expectancy now in the United States after being diagnosed HIV-positive is something like thirty-five years.

LARRY KRAMER: That’s what they tell us, yes.

AMY GOODMAN: Depending on the population. I mean, the fastest-growing rate of AIDS now, isn't it in African American women?

LARRY KRAMER: Yeah. They're not going to live thirty-five years. It is evil, what is happening, that there are treatments that can save these people that are not going to these people, because of the greed -- in huge capital letters, underlined -- of the pharmaceutical companies. It's just evil. There are treatments that can be made for a pittance that can be given to these people to save their lives. And that they’re not, as I say, is evil.

The same in this country, there are a lot of people that aren't getting medicines in this country. And, of course, in this country, the drugs cost a fortune. A fortune. You know, because of programs like the Ryan White CARE Act, some people are getting them reasonably priced. But most people aren't. I cannot tell you how evil I believe the greed of drug companies is, across the boards. And don't give me this nonsense about it finances new research. Please.

AMY GOODMAN: So how do you change them, and what about the future of AIDS activism? You’ve called for the formation of a gay army.

LARRY KRAMER: Yes, would that it would come to pass. Unfortunately, I learned, we learned, through ACT UP, because of getting the drugs, that the only way to do anything is major in-your-face activism, and I think that's the only way you can change things. Why isn't this country up in arms about this unbelievably hateful president who has put us into this police station?

AMY GOODMAN: Police station?

LARRY KRAMER: Police state, I’m sorry. Police -- we’re in a police station -- we’re in a firehouse. I don't know. You know, why aren't there more protests against this evil man who's our president. Everybody is so passive in this country. What is that all about? I just simply -- where is the outrage? People live under the most terrible circumstances. We do live in a police state. How would you like to be the lover of somebody and not be allowed to live with that person if you don't have a passport, whatever?

AMY GOODMAN: What about the whole issue of gay marriage? How do you see it, and also going to presidential politics, the questions of, for example, Hillary Rodham Clinton, Barack Obama?

LARRY KRAMER: I don't like anybody right now, I’m afraid. They all say terrible things behind our backs.

AMY GOODMAN: Like what?

LARRY KRAMER: Oh, who knows like what? They're not supporting us. We are not equal. It’s not about marriage. It's about equality. You know? In New Zealand or Australia, two people -- gay, straight, whatever, from different countries, whatever -- can live in a relationship that is recognized by the government, and are taxed like straight people. Why can't we have that here, you know? It doesn't even have to have a marriage, doesn't even have to have a civil union, just a recognition by government that people who love each other and who are committed to each other are entitled to the same rights as straight married people.

My lover, who made the house that we live in in the country, and all the help and money we have put into that house, when I die, he will get a pittance of my estate. He won’t be able to afford to keep that house. That's not fair. If we were a straight married couple, he would get the whole thing tax-free. That is not right. It is wrong. And it’s that, which motivates me, that all of this is wrong, that I cannot walk down the street holding this man's hand, if I want to, or kiss him goodbye without worrying that somebody's going to throw a brick at me, legally, and not be punished. That is wrong.

AMY GOODMAN: Recently, there was a protest, right around the anniversary of the invasion, when General Pace made his comments, at the Army recruiting situation in Times Square, and among those who came -- well, you were there, I believe -- and the former New Jersey governor, McGreevey, was there, who announced he was gay, having an affair, and resigned his office. What do you think of the former governor being there?

LARRY KRAMER: Sorry about my voice. Well, he made a big fool of himself the first time, and he’s making a concerted effort to start a new life, and I -- as much as I disapproved of him before, let's give him a chance. He wants to be an activist with us, fine.

AMY GOODMAN: Your brother has been a key person in your life. In the play, The Destiny of Me, he is a key figure. The person -- one of the people in the play is based on him. Talk about that relationship in your family.

LARRY KRAMER: I am here today, because my brother. He brought me up, more or less, because we bonded, because of a mutual dislike of both of our parents, who were not very good parents and were both working people who weren't around. And he was eight and a half years older, and he always looked after me, and still in a way does. And it's been the most moving experience of my life, that and my relationship with my lover, David Webster.

AMY GOODMAN: Your brother's name is Arthur?

LARRY KRAMER: Arthur Kramer, yes.

AMY GOODMAN: Does he live here in New York?

LARRY KRAMER: They live in Stanford and in Rancho Santa Fe. He's the rich one in the family. And he was the first person I told I was gay, and he got me into therapy when I tried to kill myself at Yale in my freshman year. And he's always been very caring. He's not been critical of my homosexuality.

AMY GOODMAN: Yet, you’ve written all straights hate gays.

LARRY KRAMER: I sort of am a little angry with you that you’re making that statement, because obviously the article is written with a certain perspective in mind, that if straight people don't hate gays, they're also -- they’re voting for people who hate gays, so what's the difference, basically? You know, until Hillary or Obama or somebody says, ”Yes, I am for gay equality and will fight to change the laws for gay equality,” then she’s a person who I think hates us, quite frankly. End of statement. And you can say that about every presidential candidate. Nobody has come out for gay equality. They’re terrified of doing it, because they lack the courage and because of this 65% of the country, which basically does hate us: the right wing, the religious right, whatever they’re called these days.

AMY GOODMAN: So what do you think needs to be done right now?

LARRY KRAMER: Well, we need a very strong ACT UP again. We need every gay person to get out there and fight, and unfortunately that's not going to happen. This is not a population that knows how to fight to save its own life. But I could say that about just every population, I’m afraid.

AMY GOODMAN: What do you have to say to young people? Didn’t you recently at some point go back to visit your high school?

LARRY KRAMER: Very depressing. Woodrow Wilson High School in Washington, the place like a third world school now. I go around to colleges a lot. I get invited to colleges a lot. And it's very moving. The kids are very passive, and they know it, and they don't know what to do, and they don't know how to get out of it. And one attempts to instill in them a sense of pride for who they are. I happen to think that gay people are better than straight people. I think we're more courageous and more loving, and we're better friends, and all of these things. If I can just instill the kids with that and that they have to fight their place in the sun, and a day at a time.

AMY GOODMAN: When you wanted to kill yourself, what were the thoughts, the feelings, that brought you out of it? How did you save yourself?

LARRY KRAMER: I was at Yale. It was my freshman year, and I just knew I was the only gay person in that entire university, which, of course, was not true, but that's how I felt, and I was not doing well, unfortunately, and my parents had spent so much money for my education there, and I felt terribly guilty that I was flunking out, and so I ate 200 aspirin. And I don't know. I called the campus cops finally. I went into my bed, and I thought that I would fall asleep, and I didn't. And so, finally, I guess something took over, and I called the campus cops, and they came and they pumped my stomach. And my brother was the first person I saw when I did wake up. He had just come back from his honeymoon. Some present! And he got me to a shrink fast.

AMY GOODMAN: Larry Kramer, you're extremely critical of the establishment --

LARRY KRAMER: Who could not be?

AMY GOODMAN: -- gay organizations.

LARRY KRAMER: Oh, gay organizations. Well, I am. We are a very wealthy community. I don't want to call it a community. We’re not a community. I try to -- there is not a gay community. It's a gay population. We are much bigger than a community. But there’s a lot of -- there are billionaires -- David Geffen, people like that. And he’s just one of many and we have simply not used our money to organize ourselves to fight back, you know? The Jews learned how to do that after the Second World War. They got their organizations to protect their people, to get laws passed by the government, that Jews are protected. I make a lot of comparisons between the Jews and the gays. And we're still just much too invisible.

Just last election was the first time that major rich gays got together through a man called Tim Gill at the Gill Foundation, who's a billionaire, and my friend Rodger McFarlane, who runs the Gill Foundation, to actually organize with people like George Soros and Norman Lear, election by election. The last election we defeated a number of hateful candidates, like Santorum in Pennsylvania and a number of local. That's the first time we have done that, we have used -- we have raised millions to fight back. And now that we have learned how to do that and the rich gays are forming their own foundations, I hope there will be more of that. It's a long process.

AMY GOODMAN: We are going to have to leave it there, Larry Kramer, I want to thank you very much for spending the hour with us. Larry Kramer, longtime AIDS activist, author and playwright, one of the founders of the AIDS Coalition to Unleash Power.

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