Hi D,
D: IMHO, it should be illegal to go around telling people when Jesus is going to return.....
JoA: That would be a MAJOR and MASSIVE violation of the US Constitution, the Bill of Rights, Divine Providence and the direct commands placed on Believers by the Master. I trust you're tongue is lodged firmly in your cheek with this! You actually want the government to have that much authority over your religious freedoms and your freedom of speech? Surely not!
D: Even he said himself "You know not the day or the hour". To me, people who do this are false prophets.
JoA: It is essential when quoting scriptural support for ones views to include the context or at least the whole sentence!
This is why many people have wrongly believed they were going to see the kingdom established and why many others doubt the prophecies entire. Many Christians pull verses out of context, as you do here, and place their own beliefs on those partial verses/clauses.
Its not a question of what you and I think a false prophet is, its what the Word says one is that matters. Words mean things.
One cannot take words out of context and build a doctrine on them and hope to discover/present the truth thereby. Well, one can, people do it all too often... but your interpretation/partial paraphrase is NOT what the Master said:
Matt 24:42 Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come.
43 But know this, that if the goodman of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken up.
44 Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh.
45 Who then is a faithful and wise servant, whom his lord hath made ruler over his household, to give them meat in due season?
46 Blessed is that servant, whom his lord when he cometh shall find so doing. (emphasis mine).
This is the teaching. No one knows the day or the hour, true enough, not even the Master when he was speaking knew it (Mark 13:32), HOWEVER if we pay attention to the world around us and to the prophets we can know the "watch" according to Y'shua: if the goodman of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched..." We know the Watch. This is the reason the prophecies were given in the first place! Why else would God have included them in the scriptures?
The Master directly told us how to know the "watch" in this chapter (Matt 24), specifically in these verses:
32 Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh:
33 So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors.
34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.
When Israel put forth its leaves in 1948 summer, the Kingdom of God, drew near and the "watch" began.
Is this a reference to Israel? Absolutely! It is based on Daniel's clear prophecy:
Dan 4:13 I saw in the visions of my head upon my bed, and, behold, a watcher and an holy one came down from heaven;
14 He cried aloud, and said thus, Hew down the tree, and cut off his branches, shake off his leaves, and scatter his fruit: let the beasts get away from under it, and the fowls from his branches:
15 Nevertheless leave the stump of his roots in the earth, even with a band of iron and brass, in the tender grass of the field; and let it be wet with the dew of heaven, and let his portion be with the beasts in the grass of the earth:
In context this dual prophecy referenced the King (Nebuchadnezzar) and the State of Israel he "cut down" ending Israel's existence as a sovereign nation until 1948 when the "band of iron" was finally removed.
Master Y'shua tells us that the generation that sees this "band of iron" removed, that sees the "tree of Israel" again sprout, as Paul references in Romans 11, will see the fulfillment of the prophecies, ie the Kingdom established. Of that generation the Master assures us,
Matt 24:34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.
And how are the Believers to react to this Good News of the kingdom?
Again Matt 24:42, Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come.
43 But know this, that if the goodman of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken up.
44 Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh.
45 Who then is a faithful and wise servant, whom his lord hath made ruler over his household, to give them meat in due season?
46 Blessed is that servant, whom his lord when he cometh shall find so doing.
Many of we servants are doing this work in varying ways. We are pointing to the clear prophecies as they are presented in the texts, in context, and declaring, as we are commanded by the Master, that the Man of Sin, the Son of Perdition, the Little Horn, is on his way and that following his Novus Ordo Seclorum reign, Mosiach will come. Why will Moshiach come?:
Matt 24:22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.
Israel is the key.
To save the Elect, the Chosen People, to save the Jews from the now consolidating NWO government of the coming Rex Mundi, "those days shall be shortened" and the Kingdom will be established in this generation (ie of either 1948 or possibly 1967). This is what the Bible teaches. This is what Master Y'shua and the other prophets clearly teach.
This is also what the Mayan and other ancient calendars predict.
This is what scientists are seeing when they speak of coming pole shift.
This is what the I Ching foresees.
This is what Nostradamus foresaw.
This is what Edgar Cayce knew.
This is the significance of the countless prophecies that are falling into place right before our eye if we "have eyes to see" what is clearly happening.
This is also what the New World Order (Novus Ordo Mundi) and New Secular Age (Novus Order Seclorum) globalist proponents are working to control and to this end the Bavarian Illuminati and their allies (the Bilderberg Group, the CFR, the Federal Reserve, the World Court, the UN etc) have worked these many years.
The "Watch" is now drawing to a close.
This is harmonious with Rambam (Rabbi Moshe ben Maimon, Maimonides) who gave the following conditions that would bring in the Moshiach:
- if Israel repented a single day;
- if Israel observed a single Shabbat properly;
- if Israel observed two Shabbats in a row properly;
- in a generation that is totally innocent or totally guilty;
- in a generation that loses hope;
- in a generation where children are totally disrespectful towards their parents and elders;
Zech 8:23 Thus saith HaShem of hosts; In those days it shall come to pass, that ten men shall take hold out of all languages of the nations, even shall take hold of the skirt of him that is a Jew, saying, We will go with you: for we have heard that God is with you.
This is our future.
This is political.
This is religious.
This is truth.
This is the Gospel of the Kingdom that we are now called to preach.
This is the "meat" that is meant for this "season."
IF...
We are good stewards of God's Word. If we are, we will be blessed.
Even as we bless Israel. As was said in the beginning:
Gen 12:3 And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed.
THIS is the essential teaching of Master Y'shua for our "Watch":
Matt 24:45 Who then is a faithful and wise servant, whom his lord hath made ruler over his household, to give them meat in due season?
46 Blessed is that servant, whom his lord when he cometh shall find so doing.
Having done all to stand,
STAND.
D: ...Let Jesus do this work himself...
JoA: The Master commands his servants to work, to stand and to be "hot" for God's Kingdom. Shall we sit on our hands and ignore his clear instructions? This is what much of the Church of the last Days is doing but not with his blessings:
Rev 3:15 I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot.
16 So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.
17 Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked:
18 I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see.
19 As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.
As for me and my household, we will SERVE the Lord.
Maranatha,
The KINGDOM is coming soon!
~ John of AllFaith
D's original post:
IMHO, it should be illegal to go around telling people when Jesus is going to return. Even he said himself "You know not the day or the hour". To me, people who do this are false prophets.Let Jesus do this work himself and come back in his own time if he is so omnipotent. He doesn't need us to prophecise for him.
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